Comments on: Leading in the digital age http://www.leadershipturn.com/leading-in-the-digital-age/ Articles, tips, and resources about leadership. Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:50:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Quotable quotes: about leaders http://www.leadershipturn.com/leading-in-the-digital-age/comment-page-1/#comment-1423 Quotable quotes: about leaders Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:42:04 +0000 http://www.leadershipturn.com/leading-in-the-digital-age/#comment-1423 [...] Simonton, when commenting on a recent post, said, “I like your Lao Tzu quote, by the way. I also like these [...] [...] Simonton, when commenting on a recent post, said, “I like your Lao Tzu quote, by the way. I also like these [...]

]]> By: Miki Saxon http://www.leadershipturn.com/leading-in-the-digital-age/comment-page-1/#comment-1208 Miki Saxon Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:00:10 +0000 http://www.leadershipturn.com/leading-in-the-digital-age/#comment-1208 Hi Ben, Micro-managing is a MAP function and generally happens whether that person is managing people or parenting kids. Heh heh, anyone who finds a solution to the massive egos and rock star mentalities would join the ranks of the world's richest in short order. Your quotes are excellent and I'm going to use them for next Sunday's Quotable Quotes feature. Thanks! Hi Ben, Micro-managing is a MAP function and generally happens whether that person is managing people or parenting kids.

Heh heh, anyone who finds a solution to the massive egos and rock star mentalities would join the ranks of the world’s richest in short order.

Your quotes are excellent and I’m going to use them for next Sunday’s Quotable Quotes feature.

Thanks!

]]> By: Bennet Simonton http://www.leadershipturn.com/leading-in-the-digital-age/comment-page-1/#comment-1215 Bennet Simonton Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:24:35 +0000 http://www.leadershipturn.com/leading-in-the-digital-age/#comment-1215 Miki, I agree that a hierarchical form/structure is not the problem and actually there is no way to get rid of that. Somebody must hold responsibility for getting things done and serving customers, owners, etc. So there has to be a hierarchy, but that does not mean it should include over-direction of the workforce. Under-direction is much preferred and the best error to make if an error must be made. Massive egos are a problem. The top needs to understand that theirs is a support role only and that the most important people are the workers who produce whatever it is that the company provides to its customers. Bosses must realize that they are suppliers to their customers, the workers, and that only in executing that role to perfection will the company ever be the best it can be. I like your Lao Tzu quote, by the way. I also like these two. "The consummate leader cultivates the moral law and strictly adheres to its methods and discipline. The moral law causes people to be in complete accord with their ruler so that they will follow him regardless of their lives, undismayed by any danger." Sun Tzu 400-320 BC And “You Should Value People Most, Yourself As Leader The Least.” Mencius 400BC Best regards, Ben Miki,

I agree that a hierarchical form/structure is not the problem and actually there is no way to get rid of that. Somebody must hold responsibility for getting things done and serving customers, owners, etc.

So there has to be a hierarchy, but that does not mean it should include over-direction of the workforce. Under-direction is much preferred and the best error to make if an error must be made.

Massive egos are a problem. The top needs to understand that theirs is a support role only and that the most important people are the workers who produce whatever it is that the company provides to its customers. Bosses must realize that they are suppliers to their customers, the workers, and that only in executing that role to perfection will the company ever be the best it can be.

I like your Lao Tzu quote, by the way. I also like these two.

“The consummate leader cultivates the moral law and strictly adheres to its methods and discipline.
The moral law causes people to be in complete accord with their ruler so that they will follow him regardless of their lives, undismayed by any danger.” Sun Tzu 400-320 BC

And “You Should Value People Most,
Yourself As Leader The Least.”
Mencius 400BC

Best regards, Ben

]]> By: Miki Saxon http://www.leadershipturn.com/leading-in-the-digital-age/comment-page-1/#comment-1233 Miki Saxon Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:30:51 +0000 http://www.leadershipturn.com/leading-in-the-digital-age/#comment-1233 Hi Ben, I agree that top-down won't cut it, especially with today's workforce. However, even under a plan such as Best Buy's ROWE some type of hierarchal management form still exists. I don't think it's the structure or form that's the problem, rather it's MAP (mindset, attitude, philosophy™) and the often massive egos that cause the problems. Just because one EARNS more doesn't make one WORTH more! Thanks for stopping by and adding your thoughts and hope that you'll be back. Hi Ben, I agree that top-down won’t cut it, especially with today’s workforce. However, even under a plan such as Best Buy’s ROWE some type of hierarchal management form still exists.

I don’t think it’s the structure or form that’s the problem, rather it’s MAP (mindset, attitude, philosophy™) and the often massive egos that cause the problems.

Just because one EARNS more doesn’t make one WORTH more!

Thanks for stopping by and adding your thoughts and hope that you’ll be back.

]]> By: Bennet Simonton http://www.leadershipturn.com/leading-in-the-digital-age/comment-page-1/#comment-1239 Bennet Simonton Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:47:31 +0000 http://www.leadershipturn.com/leading-in-the-digital-age/#comment-1239 The real key, internet or not, is to get rid of the top-down command and control approach to managing people that by its nature demeans, disrespects and demotivates employees. Start treating employees with great respect as if they are more important than any boss because they are. And get on with providing them whatever they say they need to do a better job. It is management's responsibility to provide outstanding support to employees by way of training, tools, parts, material, discipline, information, procedures, technical advice, direction and others. Top-down concentrates only on direction and that is a huge error with people since the very best direction is the very least. Best regards, Ben Author "Leading People to be Highly Motivated and Committed" The real key, internet or not, is to get rid of the top-down command and control approach to managing people that by its nature demeans, disrespects and demotivates employees. Start treating employees with great respect as if they are more important than any boss because they are. And get on with providing them whatever they say they need to do a better job. It is management’s responsibility to provide outstanding support to employees by way of training, tools, parts, material, discipline, information, procedures, technical advice, direction and others. Top-down concentrates only on direction and that is a huge error with people since the very best direction is the very least.

Best regards, Ben
Author “Leading People to be Highly Motivated and Committed”

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