Comments on: The Rise Of the MBA And The Fall Of Business http://www.leadershipturn.com/the-rise-of-the-mba-and-the-fall-of-business/ Articles, tips, and resources about leadership. Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:50:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Miki Saxon http://www.leadershipturn.com/the-rise-of-the-mba-and-the-fall-of-business/comment-page-1/#comment-2110 Miki Saxon Fri, 01 May 2009 15:53:08 +0000 http://www.leadershipturn.com/?p=2417#comment-2110 You're right, Billy, I don't. But it's interesting that <a href="http://www.leadershipturn.com/leaderships-future-cheating-is-ok/" rel="nofollow">56% of MBAs and 84% of Business undergrads admit to cheating vs. a measly 72% of engineering students</a> (sarcasm intended). Those numbers are more than high enough to be termed a majority. Of course there are exceptions, there are always exceptions; remember The Mule in Isaac Asimov's classic Foundation Series? I disagree that anyone can walk into a job and succeed without any learning curve. Lou Gerstner had years of experience and still took time to learn about IBM and its business and its markets. Yes, he learned faster than most, but learn he did. (BTW, his book "Who Said Elephants Can't Dance" is a great read.) Having a certain type of degree from a certain school is no guarantee that a person is going to perform and the damage done by decades of people who see themselves as 'above the rest' because of a piece of paper is real. You’re right, Billy, I don’t.

But it’s interesting that 56% of MBAs and 84% of Business undergrads admit to cheating vs. a measly 72% of engineering students (sarcasm intended).

Those numbers are more than high enough to be termed a majority. Of course there are exceptions, there are always exceptions; remember The Mule in Isaac Asimov’s classic Foundation Series?

I disagree that anyone can walk into a job and succeed without any learning curve. Lou Gerstner had years of experience and still took time to learn about IBM and its business and its markets. Yes, he learned faster than most, but learn he did. (BTW, his book “Who Said Elephants Can’t Dance” is a great read.)

Having a certain type of degree from a certain school is no guarantee that a person is going to perform and the damage done by decades of people who see themselves as ‘above the rest’ because of a piece of paper is real.

]]> By: Billy http://www.leadershipturn.com/the-rise-of-the-mba-and-the-fall-of-business/comment-page-1/#comment-2241 Billy Fri, 01 May 2009 13:04:25 +0000 http://www.leadershipturn.com/?p=2417#comment-2241 So I take it your not an MBA? Like every other field, degree or career, the group of people who have earned an MBA has its share of under-performers. Maybe even a double portion. I even have some of the same feelings around the engineering fields. However, like all other educational programs it depends on the person. I agree that few people can walk in to any job and excel without some time to learn. But there are a few. So I take it your not an MBA?

Like every other field, degree or career, the group of people who have earned an MBA has its share of under-performers. Maybe even a double portion. I even have some of the same feelings around the engineering fields. However, like all other educational programs it depends on the person. I agree that few people can walk in to any job and excel without some time to learn. But there are a few.

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